Linux help, SUSE and Samba
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| I've got SUSE 9.3 installed on an old machine. It works and all but how do I get it online? How to I initiate samba. I installed samba in the installation. Also during the installation SUSE asked for network connection but then I didn't have any cable in. Can I rerun that net-configuration somehow now after everything is installed and in place? I've search around but I haven't found anything good on how to setup a samba server in suse. Please link me if this has already been answered. Oh, and is there anything I should know before I install BMax? Have anyone done this with SUSE? Sorry for being so linux new today. |
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| The majority of configuration tasks can be done through Yast. It'll be in the System or Utilities folder. Check here: http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/networking/yast_ethernet.shtml I'm not sure if it's still correct for 9.3 - if you can't figure it out I can provide more specific advice when I get home from work. Samba on 9.3 for me was already running, mostly configured, and had some default shares added. Yast again provides some configuration for it, check here: http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/doc/suse/suse9.2/suselinux-adminguide_en/ch25s03.html Samba configuration should be in Network Services->Samba Server. You will need to add a user account so you can actually access those shares though. The easiest way is to open a console as root and clone your Linux user account information. cat /etc/passwd | mksmbpasswd.sh > /etc/smbpasswd chmod 600 /etc/smbpasswd You will then have to set passwords for the users. You can do this with the "smbpasswd" command. smbpasswd username There may be easier ways to do these things, if you play around in Yast you'll probably find some more stuff. As for BlitzMax, you shouldn't really have any problems, but you may have to install some more packages depending on your install. If you have a recent ATI card (8500 or better) you will have to download the Linux installer from ATI's driver website. If you have an NVidia card you can download an installer through YOU, although I haven't tried this myself. You can load YOU from Yast, it should be under Software->Online Update This is mostly off the top of my head - if you have any troubles, I can double check everything when I get home this afternoon. |
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| Thanks, I've got a Nvidia TNT 2 =) (Hope it's supported) I'll have a look at this at once, thanks again for the fast and throughtout reply! |
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| I see the server in the network now =) most things seems to be configurable through the control center. I'll try to setup some accounts, should I have one samba account for each computer in the network that can access the files? Haven't looked to deeply into this part yet. BMax failed =( I can't build any program. And I can't copy from bmax (Ctrl + C not working atleast) but it says: cannot find -lGLU in some i586-suse-linux/bin/id folder collect2: id returned 1 exit status So I guess I need to install something more. How do I install additional components. Also how do I open YOU for updating drivers? What should I install? The graphics seems to be working and I have turned graphic acceleratio. |
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| Wave, This is a common error, and it simply means that you need the mesa drivers: xlib-mesa-gl-dev (6.8.1 or greater) xlib-mesa-glu-dev (6.8.1 or greater) You may also want to install: libsdl1.2-dev g++ (3.3) gcc (3.3) libstdc++ (5_3.3) You *should* be able to use RPMs for SuSE, at least as my memory serves. (I haven't used SuSE since 8.1) You should be able to locate them for SuSE instead of the Red Hat compatibles -- If memory serves right, the Red Hat RPMs work under SuSE as well most of the time. 1) open a Terminal window (such as Konsole, if you are using KDE, and what ever GNOME uses equivalent to it) 2) either: su root [press enter], then enter root password rpm -i [enter the full name of the rpm, including .rpm] -[or]- sudo rpm -i [enter the full name of the rpm, including .rpm] You will see what's going on in the terminal window, good or bad :-) As far as "YOU" goes, I can't help you there... Thats a new one to me! |
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| Yes I can install rpm's. After they have been downloaded SUSE asks if they should be installed. The problem is where do I find and download them? Do I have them on the SUSE cds? I'll search around a bit, perhaps I'll find the files. Many Thanks for your reply. |
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| http://rpm.sh-linux.org/rpm-2004/target/RPMS/sh4/xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.1-4.sh4.rpm installed the above but it didn't help.. |
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| that RPM is the GLU driver... Did you install the GL one as well? Both are needed, as GL are the actual GL headers, then GLU are the extensions (correct me if I'm wrong here) I will search around for you on these drivers... generally you can find these on the CDs (if its updated enough), or at the site for the distro (ie www.suse.com) |
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| All the stuff you will need should be on the CDs. Open up System->Yast. In the Software panel, click on Install and Remove Software. Locate xorg-X11-Mesa and xorg-X11-Mesa-devel and check these for install if they aren't there already. You might also need freeglut and freeglut-devel. YOU just means Yast Online Update, and you can get to that from Software->Online Update in Yast. YOU should do most updates automatically for you. However there are some other packages there, probably Multimedia Option Pack 1 and 2 that you'll want so you can play MP3s. There's also an option to Download Microsoft True Type Fonts - these are all the Arial and Verdana type fonts that loads of website use, you'll probably want those too. |
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| Thats sweet (YOU)... I knew about something they (SuSE team) were working on an Online Update, but I never followed up with it. Looks like SuSE has gotten even better over the past years than they already were! Linspire has CNR, which it and YOU are similar in concept. I always like SuSE, but I always had the hardware that didn't like it :-( |
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| The thing about CNR as far as I can see is that it does not provide the same level of details you can get by inspecting a package's contents through something like Yast - Install and Remove. The majority of distributions now also provide an automated updating facility like YOU. The only real advantage of CNR that I can see is that it is geared toward people unfamiliar with common Linux applications. Certainly distributions like SuSE, Mandriva and Ubuntu are becoming easy enough to use that distributions like Linspire are becoming less important. The only problem with Yast for most people is how big it has become. Though personally I like being able to maintain almost all settings from one application - need to do some configuration? Simple, just open up Yast. There's also the issue Yast has of seeing configuration for stuff like DNS Servers when you may not even have a DNS Server installed. No doubt that's confusing for a lot of people new to Linux. I don't know what kind of hardware issues you had with SuSE. Everything I had worked OK out of the box, with the exception of Accelerated 3D. That was just a matter of going to the ATI website and running an installer. |
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| My problem with hardware was it was all cheap, mostly integrated boards at the time Linux still had no drivers for. So the issues were missing drivers, meaning that the sound and NIC supports were lost with the boards and I was forced into adding cards that were supported. This was several years ago, and I just simply went trying different distros, until I landed into Linspire. I am not a "dumb" user with linux, just a lazy one. Recently, this has started to change the more I develop within Linux OS. I have found several disadvantages to Linspire (they messed with a LOT to make it this "stupidified" and cloned Windows theme) CNR *DOES* allow to to see what's being installed, but as or after it installs the package(s). And its easy enough to remove them too. I can look through each "package" and see all the DEB files it needed to install. What bites is that you CAN NOT know what ALL the required DEB files are. I have no way of determining what belongs with what unless it needed to install a *missing* deb. As I progress with Linspire, especially this sound thing we've been working on, the less I like it. Its still rock solid stable, and runs and does everything as required, but its the "Where do I" and "How can I" type questions for more sophisticated things that it doesn't provide. I mean just this: It should have taken me minutes to get the sound support rolling for BlitzMax, but it has turned into days. This reminds me of the stuff MS did with .NET coming from Studio 6. The Framework changed so much that it was a NEW language in a sense. Things that were in places forever, sudennly moved and are callled something else. Coding simple stuff took hours and days longer just because they wanted to change the development environment. My point is not to complain about MS stuff, just as a comparison to Linspire. I am determined to figure out this sound issue. I plan on looking into SuSE again. It sounds like much positive progress has been placed into the development of it. It is one of my favorite Distros. |
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| On Nvidias homepage they urge SUSE people to use YOU and not build their drivers themselves. As far as now SUSE seems quite solid. The only other linux I have tried was red hat and that was some years ago. Searching and installing additional files was very simple as soon as I clicked "install software". This is a good place for rpms: http://rpm.sh-linux.org/rpm-2004/target/RPMS/sh4/ Faster than inserting a cd =) Hope it works now.. |
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| The pong demo did build and run but the screen got _==_= totally screwed.. Flickering. Can't see anything, can't get back to linux. |
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| Please try running something like glxgears or even Frozen Bubble to see if it's an issue with your video drivers or settings. If you want to avoid having to put in a CD all the time, you should add an installation source in Yast for the SuSE RPMs. The base site is ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/ however there are many mirrors, and my experience is that they are faster than the main server. Look here http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/downloads/ftp/int_mirrors.html for mirrors. |
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| I can't get back ito linux. When I restart I get to a gray background with a teal box saying Xconsole in the top left corner. Can't do anything there except a pointless right-click menu. I'll try booting in safe-mode.. |
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| It sounds like you might've somehow managed to uninstall or screw up your desktop. That's a lightweight backup desktop that's running. Do you still get the login screen? You should be able to change you default desktop before you login. You need to be very careful when installing RPMs from other locations. RPM will try to control dependencies and what might happen is that if you sourced an RPM from another place it'll uninstall a lot of stuff because the RPM you're installing doesn't provide everything your currently installed software needs. That's generally why they recommend only downloading RPMs for your distribution and version. I'm guessing you downloaded some other distribution's package and installed it, Yast told you there were dependency problems and x many packages would have to be removed. From the Xconsole you should be able to do the following: su (enter root password) /sbin/yast2 If this does not work try yast rather than yast2. Yast should start up and you'll be able to reinstall all those packages of KDE or Gnome and get your desktop back. |
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| Ok, thanks, I'll try that and get back in a moment. |
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| Ok I managed to open Yast so I can install and remove stuff. I'll try to reinstall everything because I don't know what rpm that failed. |
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| It didn't work. I'll have to reinstall. In SUSE 9.3 what modules should I add so I can run BMax and compile modules? Or should I simply install everything on the CDs? |
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| You couldn't reinstall the desktop, or you couldn't get BlitzMax to run? If you want to reinstall your desktop, look for KDE-Base or Gnome-Base packages. Selecting these packages should make the system select other dependencies you'll need. I think for KDE there are a minimum of 3 KDE-* packages you need to run the desktop. For Gnome, no idea, because I don't use it as a desktop on SUSE. For Blitz, I can probably give you a better list if I get time this evening. You'll need packages like gcc, xorg-x11-mesa, xorg-x11-mesa-dev and xorg-x11-dev to build modules. |
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| Both =) I want BMax to run. I don't need anything Except BMax, samba and a browser. Ok, I'll search for KDE and install anything I can find. |
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